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I was checking the headlines today on LBPOST.com and came across another story about the Long Beach Police Department shooting an alleged sexual assaulter. Apparently, the police learned from their Zerby incident that it would be wise to announce themselves before taking it to fatal measures. According to the article, Chief McDonnell made it clear that the officers identified themselves and communicated with the man in both, English and Spanish.
Here is a quote from the article:
"The Long Beach Police Department issued a statement today after police officers were flagged down by a female in the area of the 2100 block of Pine Avenue this morning around 5:00am regarding a sexual assault that involved a minor, with the suspect being a family member."
...McDonnell on Sunday made it very clear that officers confronted the suspect and announced themselves in both English and Spanish. The suspect had fled to a nearby home and officers told him to exit in both languages. When he did not, they entered the home in an attempt to arrest him."
How do you feel about the handling of this situation by the police? In this case, did they follow the correct and necessary procedure to arrest the person they were after or were in the wrong once again?
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Comment by JulsnMatt1028 on December 20, 2010 at 9:10pm @Molly, Well said! I think we typed our comments at the exact same time... LOL
Comment by JulsnMatt1028 on December 20, 2010 at 9:08pm It doesn't seem like any of the commenters below are supporting the suspect or criticizing the cops actions in this case... Instead they're having a very open, honest, and objective discussion.
With this particular shooting, none of us where there, so... I'll still be teaching my kids to be careful and not get caught up into BS that could result in you getting shot. Hopefully, they'll listen.
We don't know for a fact that he raped his step daughter, although he probably did, I think Perfect Intent's broader point is in regards to having a day in court. The fact of this case appears that he truly did have a gun that helped put him in the position of having another person with a gun squeeze first and aim better. Either way, it sounds like a big series of horrible events that ended in this guy getting killed. Having an open honest discussion of the events afterwards is one of the things that makes this country good, and helps us to make sure that those in charge are also held accountable for there actions. I don't see the problem in having this discussion...
LBReport... This site has featured and shared many blogs from your profile, some of which are strictly direct links back to a story posted on LBReport.com. As noted, any perceived oversight as to the original reporter of this particular story was certainly not intentional. TheMan, simply noticed it first via Facebook. Thank you your continued hard work on all the stories you run! We appreciate our collaborative working relationship!!!
Is my comment to rambly-ish? (If it is, you should really listen to our Thursday night shows... aww man, now THAT's some rambling... :)
Comment by Molly Marina Haupt on December 20, 2010 at 8:58pm @American
When writing "these people," I assume you are connecting Doug Zerby to this suspect. There are similarities between the two cases, but I believe the main reason this was mentioned on 562citylife is to open discussion about Long Beach Police procedures, as two officer involved shootings in one week is very serious.
You have to understand that many people in this city (including myself) have had frustrating and negative experiences when dealing and relying on the LB police department. So, when you already have an uncertainty about the overall reliance of the agency, then you don't always believe what they say and what they report. That is why many of us are not just reading the news briefs about police-involved altercations and moving on.
Long Beach is a beautiful city full of people that like to ask questions, so please allow us to continue that without jumping to conclusion that we are looking to blame everyone but the person labeled at fault. I don't think that is the case at all, but questioning authority sometimes leads to very necessary, system changes and many LB citizens think our police department needs some.
You are fortunate to have never been disrespected, mistreated, ignored, or accused of doing something you didn't do by an police officer, but you have to understand that millions of others have, therefore respectfully question police officers actions. And as each case is different, two men are now dead and that makes one think.
Hope this helps you to understand why the "public" may see things differently than you.
On a positive note, I recently dealt with a LB police officer that was wonderful, so I'd like to give Officer Keller some kudos.
Comment by American on December 20, 2010 at 7:43pm When a suspect or anyone not following cops orders, points a gun at officers they have my support to protect themselves by using their weapons. Why is it so hard for the public to understand that these people are not cooperating that is why the situation escalates. This man did not do what he was told, instead he points a gun at the cops = STUPID!!! Did you all forget that he raped his minor step daughter?!!
Comment by LBReport.com on December 20, 2010 at 3:44pm For the record, LBReport.com broke the story yesterday. We had it first and hours earlier than others. If you or 562citylife members run a newsworthy material, we credit you, as we have on other stories.
Comment by The Man on December 20, 2010 at 11:12am Yea it appears he died, sorry about not having that important detail in there. All of this stuff happening before the holidays has to be tough for the friends and families involved.
I would like to know more about this update... They told us last time there was a gun involved, pictures?
Comment by 562citylife on December 20, 2010 at 11:08am I agree with you PerfectIntent. One thing I can say for sure is that, I don't know how I would act if someone pulls a gun on me. That is a big difference than the Zerby case. I wonder what protocols they learned in training when they are in a situation like that - Fire or try to calm down the situation as much as possible and if that doesn't use your gun...?
Back to back...
Comment by Molly Marina Haupt on December 20, 2010 at 11:07am 
Comment by PerfectIntent on December 20, 2010 at 11:01am Okay, turns out this guy is dead. We'll have to wait to hear from the family members who called on him. This may be justified. I just wonder why in this day and age we have to shoot to kill - especially when they were in such close proximity. Although in this case, if it is an Officer or someone truly pointing a gun at them, I have slightly more forgiveness than the MURDER of Doug Zerby last week.
Comment by Shelley_Rae on December 20, 2010 at 10:56am I feel the police made the correct decision...one less perv off the streets too.
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